I am very excited to have had my friend Magdalena Moryson from Dublin, Ireland on my show recently. We had a great talk which you can listen to here or read our transcribed conversation in this post.
Debbie DiPietro: Hello everybody. This is Debbie DiPietro. Welcome to Courageously Go. I am on a mission. I am on a mission to facilitate a global conversation about courage. I believe that when we live from our hearts by choosing courage, the life of our dreams and a better for all are possible. No matter our age or circumstances, we never need to feel stuck or alone.
For many years I was challenged with anxiety and self doubt and I wrote about it in my award-winning blog TheWarmMilkJournal.com. Now, with this new radio show, we are talking with wonderful people from all around the world, and we’re have a talk about courage. So let’s go ahead and introduce today’s guest. Magdalena Moryson is an intuitive coach and transformation facilitator from Dublin, Ireland. She’s passionate about teaching people how to connect with their inner self and how to tap into and use their inner resources. Magdalena has been working in personal development field for a decade. First as a life coach and the journey practitioner and then as an intuitive coach. She has developed her own work called source energy healing in a program embracing your inner self. Her program is a deep healing technique that uses to clear old patterns, beliefs and any form of negativity, which might prevent clients from experiencing well beings. She also teaches how to connect with your inner self to release any limitations and embrace the potential of the individual. Magdalena is deeply connected to nature, which is a source of inspiration, balance and beauty for her. She’s also highly creative and loves photography and various forms of arts and craft.
Magdalena, welcome to Courageously Go.
Magdalena: Thank you so much for having me.
Debbie DiPietro: I’m just thrilled to have you. We actually go a ways back together you and I, don’t we?
Magdalena: Yes, we do.
Debbie DiPietro: Yes, we do. It’s interesting now, like so many of my wonderful guests here on my podcast, Magdalena, you and I, we met each other I believe on Twitter back when I was first starting out with my Warm Milk Journal blog and getting going on Twitter. You were on there as @EmbraceSparkles. We just connected. There was kind of a group of us, wasn’t there, that we seemed to from the personal development world and the spiritual world and the health and fitness world. We all kind of connected initially on Twitter and that kind of transferred to Facebook. I know for a time I remember very well summer of 2013 we got on Skype weekly together. Me in Florida and you all the way over there in Ireland. It’s been just a wonderful friendship. I’m just honored. I’m glad we were able to make this work today.
Magdalena: Yes, that’s right. The next step would be to finally meet in person and give a big hug.
Debbie DiPietro: I would love that very much. We’ll just have put it out there and we’ll make that happen.
Well, so how are things going? We’re in the new year now and how is 2018 going for you so far?
Magdalena: So far it’s very good, very exciting. I’ve just recently started a new locally, a new meditation group, which is going very well. Yeah, it’s been great joy. Gives me a lot of fulfillment to run that group. So yeah, so far so good.
Debbie DiPietro: So far so good. Well, great. I know when we were Skyping back in 2013, there was a lot going on. You were just closing on … You and your husband were closing on your new home, and you were expecting your first child. I know a lot has gone on in your life since then. So maybe if you could with us and our listeners out there maybe just some personal and professional challenges and insights you’ve had. I know you’ve been on quite a journey in the last five years.
Magdalena: Yes. I suppose the journey doesn’t even encompass the whole thing that has happened because it’s more like an atomic bomb exploded in my life. Yeah, I think that having my first child has really shock me to the core and brought up a lot of things that I have thought I have dealt with but I haven’t. It has challenged me to look at myself in a completely different way and I have to clear a lot of stuff. Put it that way. It took me three years and it’s been a long and grueling process. But I have came out of it. It feels so much better. I really love who I became, love the mother that I am, love my daughter more than life itself. So despite the fact that it’s been extremely difficult, it was really worth it. Yeah.
Debbie DiPietro: Yeah. There’s something, what is it about those little bundles? They really do change our lives, don’t they? You find yourself suddenly … They’re so utterly dependent on us and we’re responsible for this other little human being now. I know a lot of women out there, including myself, Magdalena, can really relate to that.
I will share this with you and our listeners. When I had my first child, Steven Joseph, in July of 1994, it was truly the most miraculous thing that ever happened to me. I remember I was a stay at home mom up in the Seattle area, and hanging out with that little baby boy, Magdalena, I thought I was hanging out with God. It was just really like that for me. I know that it’s very life changing.
So why don’t we take a step back and if you would mind, before you had your daughter and what specific challenges when you said you had your baby and for the first three years it was so hard for you. I think we would really benefit from hearing your story. If you wouldn’t mind sharing your struggles.
Magdalena: Sure. What exactly you have said, I felt like I am now in the presence of this magnificent being that my daughter is, and I have to completely just embrace, not the negative parts of me because those I have dealt with, those I have loved and embraced. But that light, that strength, that magnificence that she merged in me, that was something that I had to accept. That was the challenge, really, truly. Yeah. That really shook me to the core of my being because I was saying, “Well, I presented with the magnificence and yes. Yet, I somehow there is part of me that refuses to see it in me.” I had to face it and I had to finally make peace with it and say, “Well, actually, you know what, this is me. I am wonderful and I am awesome and I am worthy and I am strong and I’m courageous. I’m actually powerful. I’m here for a reason, whatever that reason is. I’m ready to deliver whatever the universe needs me to deliver.”
So yeah, it took me three years. I completely, my health went downhill. I was struggling heart wise with numerous amounts of things. But slowly and surely, bit by bit the more I embraced the good that was in me, the better I felt. I was able to recover.
Debbie DiPietro: Were there specific … Did you go anyone for help with this or were there specific techniques? How did you get through this challenging time?
Magdalena: It was a mixture of things. I did go for some healing sessions, of course I did. Also, I’ve worked and I still work with the Natural Path who supports me with vitamins and supplements. Acupuncture has been very helpful and lymphatic drainage massage was very important for me. But also I have mostly sat with myself through meditation especially has done a lot of soul searching, and I have utilized all the tips and tools and techniques that I teach to people and use them on myself like I always do because I used to do that before as well. But this particular challenge was probably one of the biggest of my life. But I was able to take myself through it, obviously with support of few people around me. Yeah, so there was a mixture of different things.
Debbie DiPietro: Well, I’m glad you’re doing better. It sounds like your present work, you’re helping others. Now, are you primarily working with women who are having similar issues with motherhood or maybe tell us a little bit about your work and who you help, who you work with and how you help them.
Magdalena: Not necessarily with women who have the same issues. I would say that I do predominantly work with women. However, I do have male clients as well. Who do I work with? They come from various backgrounds. So it’s very difficult to pinpoint. It’s not only a certain group of people that come to me. But if I would have to find a common denominators, perhaps people who have reached the point in their lives that they feel like there is something more, something else, something deeper that they need to explore. Go deeper basically within themselves and see what’s really causing the issues they have in their lives. So that I would say would be common denominator of all the people that I work with. Those people have courage and are willing to go deep. They really are interested in seeing what lies within and what ultimately is stopping them from living their best lives.
Debbie DiPietro: I appreciate your saying. It does take courage, doesn’t it, to be first of all willing to do this kind of work on ourselves. I know that many of us it’s easy to just kind of get busy with the day to day activities of living and kind of almost sleep walk through your life, right? It does take a quite a bit of courage to kind of pause and assess and look at where we’re at. If we need help and if we need to change something, to actually look at that and seek out whatever help it is that we need and take a look. That’s not an easy endeavor by any means. So by the time someone gets to you, that’s a great step in and of itself, right? That they’ve even seeking that kind of support.
Magdalena: Absolutely. I mean, I call it auto pilot. We function, most of us function on auto pilot.
Debbie DiPietro: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Magdalena: We don’t even realize what is going on underneath the surface. That’s what I actually teach. Look underneath the surface because there’s so much more to you. We kind of are like icebergs. We only see the tips of ourselves and there’s so much more to us than the eye can meet. That’s basically what I teach. Just go within. See what’s there. What is blocking you? What is stopping you? Also, a part from that, embrace the beauty, the goodness in you because we are conditioned to believe we’re not worthy, we’re not good enough, and that’s what trips us the most, that’s what sabotages us throughout the whole life. To get to the core of that belief and get rid of it, I think that’s one of the biggest successes one can really achieve in their lives.
Debbie DiPietro: I agree. How do you do that? Magdalena, how do you help people look underneath and look deeper and connect with their inner selves? What specifically … How do you do that or how do you advise them?
Magdalena: Well, there’s a whole process. It’s kind of like peeling an onion, the layers. So yeah, with every session you’re able to go deeper and deeper. That also takes time. A part from working with me at one on one capacity, there is also a lot of things that a particular client can do themselves at home. So for example, start a journal or start meditation practice, prayer, walks of gratitude, anything really that draws them in, that helps them connect with themselves. It is very individual. It is very individual really, truly. It takes time, but it’s like you have to become aware of yourself, first and foremost. Then you add on to that. You learn different tools and different techniques, how you can deal with different things that come up to the surface because I believe in teaching people chosen techniques. I don’t keep them to myself. I give them, I teach them because that way people can handle different situations whenever they might arise. They don’t need to come back to me on and on.
So yes, it is a process and it takes time. It requires a lot of patience and compassion to yourself. But it does pay off hugely. Yeah, I personally found that it’s extremely easy to accept the weak, the dark, the negative parts of us. But for me the biggest challenge was to embrace the good part. That stems in my case from my conditioning that I received as a child. So yeah, that was my challenge.
Debbie DiPietro: Yeah. I know you’re originally from Poland, is that …
Magdalena: That’s right.
Debbie DiPietro: When did you leave Poland?
Magdalena: I left Poland in 2004. So I’m in Ireland for nearly 14 years.
Debbie DiPietro: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Magdalena: That has influenced me hugely because I was able to shift from the cultural upbringing of Poland and come to Irish soil. Then you see it’s kind of like when you are not from the country that you live in, you’re not plugged into this energetic culprit of so society. That is an advantage in that way that you have permission to be more authentic you without that layer of the societal kind of expectations and cultural conditioning that you would have in the country that you’re originally from. Do you understand what I am saying?
Debbie DiPietro: I do. That’s really interesting. So you truly got a clean slate there, a new life there in Ireland. Were the local people were they accepting of you initially? How was it for you at first? If you don’t mind my asking.
Magdalena: It was mixed. I had people who were extremely open and lovely and very accepting, and then I had encountered a few people who were not so open and lovely and inviting. So yeah, it was mixed. But I think that more I have found myself and my way and I found the way to navigate through Ireland and Irish people, the easier it got. I think that Ireland gave me the gift of being able to open up to my authentic self. I don’t think I’ll be able to do it in Poland having all that conditioning bubble around me. So yeah, it’s been a huge gift. I’m very grateful. I love Ireland and I feel this is my home.
Debbie DiPietro: Yeah. I’m glad to hear that. You took action, right? You left your home there in Poland and you moved to a different country. That took tremendous courage and just that action in creating massive change in your life. What opportunities you created for yourself in doing that. I didn’t change … I didn’t move to a different country, Magdalena, but you may know this. 11 and a half years ago, I left my life of 15 years up in Seattle, Washington and literally, if you can picture the continental United States, moved clear across the country to Jacksonville, Florida. Two very different places. Loved both places but very different. I had a very large, liberal metropolitan west coast city there in Seattle, and I moved to the south here in Florida. A little more conservative, very different culture. So it’s maybe not quite like going from Poland to Ireland. But I definitely changed it up, right? I really, really changed my life and moved.
That made a huge impact in my life and in more than anything I think I grew in my confidence and just became stronger and more independent in myself to see that yes, I could do this kind of change. To let you know, I was close … I was about age 40 at the time. So I wasn’t even that young but I decided to just change it up. I needed that change, and I did it. I didn’t sit around. I could still be up there in my old life, but I didn’t. I literally kind of jumped off that cliff. I landed well. I got here and I got a job right away and new friends and a new life. I’ve never been happier now. I’m so glad I took that risk and took that chance. I think many people, they get themselves kind of stuck, if you will, and they may not be happy with their present circumstances, but they don’t do anything about it. They may be miserable in their jobs or where they live or in their marriages or whatever the case might be, but then they don’t do anything. You changed. You left and I did.
So I just put that out there because it does, it takes courage to create change and positive change in your life.
I’d like to go back to the work with your clients now. Are these primarily, Magdalena, are these people local to you there in Dublin or do you Skype and work with clients outside of your area?
Magdalena: Both. So I work with people nationally and internationally.
Debbie DiPietro: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Magdalena: Whoever’s willing and ready to go deep.
Debbie DiPietro: Okay. While we’re still on with you, let’s make sure our listeners know how to connect with you if they would be interested in learning more about what you do or working with you in the future. So why don’t we share with them what is your website? Where should they go to learn more about you?
Debbie DiPietro: Let’s go bigger now. We talked about you. We talked about both of us becoming moms and both of us leaving one home to go far away and creating a new home in a different geographic place. Let’s expand now and look at what’s going on in society and specifically this is a show for women. I’m really interested in what we can do to support one another to live more confident lives. What do you think is going on in greater, in society and why do you think women, why do we struggle so with accepting ourselves and being more confident? I think I’ve been doing some research a lot lately since started Courageously Go, and there does seem to be this confidence gap, if you will, between men and women. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Magdalena: I do. From my observations and that’s my opinion, I think we’re conditioned in a slightly different way, men and women. But women are told and I think sometimes I feel like women are targeted these days by media, by just society in general, by being said you’re not good enough. We’re being told how we’re meant to look, how we’re meant to behave, what we can and cannot do with our bodies, where should we work or shouldn’t, should we have kids or shouldn’t. So there’s so much pressure on women these days. That creates a lot of conflict internally because your inner being screams, “I am worthy and I am wonderful.” Then the external message is the opposite. A regular person wouldn’t know which voice to go after, which voice to listen to. Do you know what I mean? So it is, for women especially, quite difficult now these days to distinguish which path should I take because no matter what path sometimes I feel like no matter what path we take, it’s not going to be good because somebody’s going to have an opinion on how should I look, how should I behave, where should I work, or should I have a child or not. You feel constantly judged.
That creates a lot of discomfort, a lot of turmoil, and then women just lose their confidence because it’s like we constantly have our wings snapped. Like no matter how strong you are, no matter where you look, somebody is trying to cut those wings.
So my advice is stop listening, stop watching, stop reading all the media, all the newspapers, all the internet websites that have negative message about how you should … About our looks and basically anything to do with women. Stop listening to that.
Debbie DiPietro: That’s good advice and not always easy to do.
Magdalena: Well, you can choose what you tune in. Okay? You can choose who you follow on Twitter or on Facebook or on Instagram. You can choose what sort of information are going to come to you. I urge people to become very selective about what they read, what they listen to, and etc. Because it is food for thought, literally. That fuels our inner dialogue, and that will fuel how you feel. It will affect your mood. If you keep thinking like being effected by those information for a longer time, that creates a habit, a behavior pattern. So you see, it is extremely important. It’s the same way we are very careful of what we eat, okay? It’s the same concept. We have to be careful about what we take in.
Debbie DiPietro: Yeah. I think that’s great advice. I have written a couple blog posts recently about that very thing. Take a media diet and do be very selective. I manage social media so I’m on it quite a bit. I still get my newspaper. But I tell you, Magdalena, I really have to guard and you’re right because you expose yourself … There’s a lot of negative messages and images out there and especially for women. I had an interesting conversation with my 20 year old daughter about this very issue on Courageously Go. She was actually a guest of mine not too long ago. She said, “Mom, it’s even hard now with our friends. We’re all on Instagram and Snapchat. We have these tools, this ability to Photoshop ourselves and always look perfect. What do you do with that?” You’re always constantly … She shared with us they’re constantly comparing their physical appearance with one another. The perfect version of how they look on these digital devices. So I don’t know what you do with that. What do you do with …
Magdalena: I think that we have to stop putting value into that. Teach our children that’s not who you truly are because the looks is just part of you. But if it is extremely dangerous to build your self worth on your looks because they will fade sooner or later. They will fade. So then if that’s not there, what’s left? Then it becomes a tragedy for, it doesn’t have to be a woman but predominantly would be when we’re talking about women. It becomes a tragedy because then who am I if I don’t have the looks? But then teach your children, build their confidence, teach them that they’re worthy no matter what, despite how they look, what they achieve or don’t achieve. They are worth just because they are. That’s it. Then everything else really is a bonus, truly. That’s why I think it’s very important to teach, especially young girls, put those devices down. Go out, connect, really connect with your friends, not through telephones or computer or iPods or any other devices, but go out like we used to hang out.
Debbie DiPietro: Right. Exactly. Yeah. I feel really … I really agree with you on that. I even read there’s hotels around the world now that are actually starting offering programs where you check in to your hotel, Magdalena, and you’re required to turn in your phone and your computers and your tablets. Literally you get to unplug. They take out the TVs out of the hotel rooms and they have board games and crossword puzzles. It’s just kind of neat. I just love that idea. But no, I’m with you. I think that we really do need to guard our media exposure. I think that’s a really strong point.
Magdalena: I think it’s all about finding balance really, truly because we’re not going to get rid of technology from our lives any time soon. In fact, if anything it’s going to be stronger. So I think the challenge for us is to learn how to balance that, so that the influence is positive rather than negative. But what I see at the moment is very destructive because it takes away the connection, the human connection. It takes away the connection between me and my inner self, and then it takes the connection between me and others. Then it replaces us with the shallow really shell of what we are connected. Are we really?
Debbie DiPietro: Right. Right. Well, I agree. I think we’re just about out of time. I wish we had more time. It’s been such a pleasure to get caught up with you. You have maybe just a few final words for our listeners and we’ll wrap this up.
Magdalena: Any final words. No matter who you are, no matter how old you are, there’s always time and place to go and explore who you are and what you are capable of.
Debbie DiPietro: I second that. I thank you so much.
Magdalena: Thank you.
Debbie DiPietro: This is Debbie DiPietro with Courageously Go. Until next time, ladies, remember it’s our time to shine. Let’s make it so and Courageously Go.
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