Don’t Just Survive. Thrive! A Conversation with Gina Gardiner

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Debbie DiPietro:               Welcome to Courageously Go, where we will venture to places we’ve been afraid to go. Women of the world, we are going to start a movement, a movement towards courage. Hello everyone, this is Debbie DiPietro and I am your host for Courageously Go, and I’m so glad you’re here. Our mission is this: to facilitate a global conversation about courage. I believe that when we live from our hearts by choosing courage, the life of our dreams and a better world for all are truly possible, no matter our age or circumstances. We never need to feel stuck or alone.

Debbie DiPietro:               Our essential truths are as follows. I choose courage. I use my voice. I embrace the new. I welcome challenge. I continue to grow. I am a woman of action. I courageously go. If any of these statements ring true for you, you are most definitely in the right place. I invite you to visit my website at, where for the new year we have a new challenge going on, and it’s an online self-paced program where we get on and help each other do something new every day for three weeks. And so you can check that out on my website. On the top #Go Courses, and I invite you to join me. Use the code Courage for a $50 discount to get yourself enrolled. And I hope to have you all join me.

Debbie DiPietro:               So, I have a very special guest today, and I’m excited about introducing her to all of you. Her name is Gina Gardiner, and Gina, she is a number one international best-selling author, motivational speaker, empowerment and relationship coach, and transformational leadership trainer, with well over 30 years of experience helping people experience happiness, success, and fulfillment. She’s the founder of the Thrive Together Tribe Membership and Personal and Spiritual Development program.

Debbie DiPietro:               Gina has learned to walk twice as an adult. For over 20 years, she ran her award winning school, for the most part from a wheelchair. The gift of this experience was the development of a unique approach to life, and the development of leadership. In 2004, Gina left Headship and has since worked with countless individuals, couples, teams, and organizations helping them to step into their potential, to learn the lessons from the past, and to recognize that it is their choice to step into their power and live a fearless life.

Debbie DiPietro:               Gina is passionate about supporting people to live a truly happy, successful, and fulfilling life. Gina, welcome to Courageously Go.

Gina Gardiner:                  Thank you. I’m so pleased to be here and excited to be with you. Thank you very much, indeed.

Debbie DiPietro:               Well thank you for joining us, and it sounds like … I’ve never met you and I don’t know you well yet, but it sounds like you and I have a lot in common. We’re kind of on the same page here, so I’m excited to learn more about you and what you’re up to. So, with the new year, what are you excited about for 2019?

Gina Gardiner:                  2019 is all about developing the membership group, which is a place where people can be a part of like-minded group who want life to be better. There’s a structured program to help people step into their power, to be truly confident, and I’m really excited because for me this is about developing the spiritual matriarchs of tomorrow, or today really, and the world has never needed it more.

Gina Gardiner:                  So, my mission is to impact positively on a million people in the next five years, and that’s not all me doing it. It’s about like a stone going into a pond, rippling out, in exactly the same way that you are.

Gina Gardiner:                  We’re getting accreditation for a leadership strand to the Genuinely You Thrive program, and I’m really excited about expanding that and getting more and more people involved in taking charge of their lives, stepping into their power, being courageous. As you were talking about your core things, I thought my goodness me, that could be me talking. So, very excited about it.

Debbie DiPietro:               Well that sounds exciting. Tell us a little more. So, how long have you been doing this and how many people are involved in it now?

Gina Gardiner:                  Well, I’ve been involved in helping people step into their power for the last 30 years. The Thrive Tribe is new and it’s growing, and there are a number of people who have joined that. But it’s growing all the time. The plan is to grow that, and for people who go through the program to then act as mentors and supports for other people, both within the program and within their own communities and so on.

Gina Gardiner:                  So, it’s all about I think recognizing that collectively we are so much more powerful than we are when we try to do things on our own. And the research has shown that if you want to make a change in your life, your best shot is to surround yourself with people who have a similar agenda.

Debbie DiPietro:               I believe that. I think that’s right, and I’ve had to kind of learn that. I tend to, and I think many of us do, the perfectionist in us, we feel like we gotta take it on all ourselves, right? And I’m realizing that I’m stronger if I team up and work with other people. I think that’s right. And it sounds like you have quite a program.

Debbie DiPietro:               So, if someone wants to join, how would they do that and what could they expect? How would they get started?

Gina Gardiner:                  If they go to the website, What people can find on there is a lot of free resources. They can download a digital free copy of the latest book, Thriving Not Surviving, The Five Secret Pathways. They can sign up for my free TV series, it’s 13 episodes.

Gina Gardiner:                  But if you’re interested in being a Thrive Tribe member, then there is the opportunity, there’s an application form to join that membership. And what you get for that is that there’s the Thriving Not Surviving program, which is nine months, which you can do at your own speed. But there are videos which we’ll drop into your inbox every week, there are activity books, a themed journal. There’s an interactive Facebook group to provide support every day that you need it. And then twice weekly, interactive group coaching sessions and visiting speakers.

Gina Gardiner:                  In the long term, I’d like to be gathering people together for face to face events where they can actually meet Thrive Tribe members. But the tribe are all over the place. Geography is no barrier to this. And so if people are interested in that, they can either sign up for a free consultation, or they can sign straight up into the Thrive Tribe group. But it’s all on the website,

Debbie DiPietro:               Okay, great, and I’ll be sure when this podcast is out, I’ll put together a blog post and certainly share all of your resources on my website as well on, and we’ll help you get the word out to people.

Gina Gardiner:                  Oh, I’d be so grateful. Thank you.

Debbie DiPietro:               Of course. Yeah, it sounds great. It sounds like my kind of thing, you know? I’m definitely going to look into it as well. That sounds wonderful. So, is this pretty much your full-time, is this what you have on your plate right now or are there other projects that you would like us to know about?

Gina Gardiner:                  Well, within the Genuinely You stable, there are a number of things designed to help people. So, there’s the personal empowerment plan, which is around managing and minimizing stress and anxiety, and if people are interested in that, then every Sunday evening, a video will drop, or a link to a video will drop into your inbox. It’ll have a strategy for you to use for the week, a strategy or a principle.

Gina Gardiner:                  There’s also the relationship bridge, which people can download, and that’s looking at the relationship you have with yourself. That’s so important, because every relationship you have with other people is a reflection of the relationship you have with you. So if you feel good about yourself and you truly love and respect yourself, then you’re not going to put up with being bullied or harassed. And so I think it’s really important that you start there. Start to be your own best friend, because most of the people you speak to, they wouldn’t treat their best friend as they treat themselves.

Debbie DiPietro:               Yeah, it’s interesting, Gina, my last week’s guest, we were actually having this similar conversation in that somehow self care gets lost. Especially I think for women, and primarily this is a show for women, and I think we are the nurturers and the care givers of the world, and it’s easy to put ourselves last, and really, what good is that? We need to prioritize self care, because if we’re all ragged and worn out, what good are we to ourselves or anyone around us? So, I think self care is so important. That seems to come up in a lot of our conversations on this show.

Gina Gardiner:                  And I think it’s so important. One of the things that I would say to clients or people I’m working with is if you have a jug full of water and you keep pouring the water out, then very quickly that jug is going to be empty. But if you fill that jug from a tap to the point of overflow, and you use the overflow, you’ll never run out.

Debbie DiPietro:               I like that. I like that analogy. That works, yeah, right? And that is so true. You know, sometimes I think we just need to … Maybe we can help each other, help remind each other just to maybe slow down or choose what’s most important, and give ourselves permission to let stuff go. That was another theme that came up recently in one of my … right? Let stuff go. We don’t have to take it all on, at least not all on at the same time.

Gina Gardiner:                  Oh, I think also that women, generally speaking, are often poor at asking for what they want, or what they need. They use the mind reading technique, which is overrated, that if I huff and I puff, or if I look miserable, then somebody will understand that I need some help, rather than saying, “Look, I’ve just come home from work. Let’s work together to get dinner. We can have dinner more quickly, and we’re all tired, but you know..

Debbie DiPietro:               Yeah.

Gina Gardiner:                  But they’ll bang pans about and they’ll huff and they’ll puff, because nobody thinks to go and help them, but they don’t actively ask.

Debbie DiPietro:               Yeah, you know what? It makes me think of a dynamic I have with my husband John, Gina. John and I, years ago, when we were a new couple, we established something together. Actually, John did. He’s like, “Okay, look Debbie, we men, we’re simple creatures. We can’t read your mind, so just tell me what you want.”

Debbie DiPietro:               So, like, okay, I can do that, John. So, that’s helped though. So if I need something, I just tell him what I need or what I want, and that really helps.

Gina Gardiner:                  And for me, it’s fair. I think it’s unfair to expect other people to actually be able to tell what’s going on in your head. It’s very difficult isn’t it, because I mean, most of the time we don’t even know what’s going on in our own heads, let alone somebody else’s.

Debbie DiPietro:               That’s true.

Gina Gardiner:                  But to do it with no victim, no whine, no edge to the voice, but just simply say, “It would be really helpful if you could help me with this now please,” rather than making a big drama of it.

Debbie DiPietro:               Yeah, I struggled with that. I’m so much better now, but I’ll be honest, when I was younger, I really struggled with that. I’ve always been very sensitive, and I would get my feelings hurt, especially with my husband or boyfriend, or a friend. I’d get my feelings hurt. Maybe they said something or they didn’t read my mind and they didn’t do what I really wanted them to do. And I’d get all pouty and I’d cause all this drama for myself. And for years I struggled with that. I really did.

Gina Gardiner:                  I think it’s an incredibly common thing for the people to struggle with. And I think you talk about being courageous, and sometimes it’s about being prepared to step out of your comfort zone and do something differently, because if you always approach things in the same way, you’re going to get the same result. And you’ve found the hard way, that over time, that by changing the way that you dealt with it, that you got a better result.

Gina Gardiner:                  But many people don’t just take a step back and recognize that there’s a pattern of behavior going on. You trigger something because somebody’s said something or done something in a particular way, that triggers the other person, and you end up with this very destructive dance going on. It could be avoided by just being honest and saying, “When you do that, it makes me feel uncomfortable … or when you don’t do that, then I feel as if you’re abandoning me or whatever.”

Gina Gardiner:                  And just having that word, but with no victim, no whine, no edge, no anger, but just stating it as a fact.

Debbie DiPietro:               Yeah, exactly. And I find it, for myself, I’ve found it really empowering, when I finally came to the realization that I can control how I react to situations. It may be out of my control how someone else, how they behave or what the world deals to me. That is out of my control, but what is in my control is how I, Debbie DiPietro react to that person or to that situation. And that is tremendously powerful.

Gina Gardiner:                  I think you’re absolutely right, and the other thing that I’d like to add to that, and I think that’s an incredibly important principle, but the other is that you own your own emotional state. And if you make it somebody else’s responsibility to make you happy, or to stop you being angry, then you’re handing your power over to that person, and you have to put up with what they give you.

Gina Gardiner:                  But if you take responsibility for your own emotional state, you can choose to be happy, or not, nobody can make you angry or upset or feel rejected unless you choose that. And I think the two of those principles together can make a lasting and significant difference to people’s quality of life for the better.

Debbie DiPietro:               Oh, I agree. Yeah. We not give our power away, and I think that’s really definitely something to remember.

Debbie DiPietro:               While we have some time, I always like to learn a little bit about the background and personal story of our guest, because it’s interesting, Gina, and I’ve never met you before, but it sounds like you have an interesting … like when you started all of this. And maybe if you wouldn’t mind going back and sharing. I always like to hear about the why. So, why, how did you get started? And you know, reading your bio, you started off in a wheelchair, so maybe share with us a little bit about your past and how you got started.

Gina Gardiner:                  I was a teacher. As a teenager, was overweight, full of eczema, no confidence. When I became a teacher, I realized that I’d finally found something I was very good at and that I loved. I was promoted very quickly, and I became the vice principal of a very large school very early. I was only 28 then. And I was appointed to be the catalyst for change. We’d had a couple of turns of working very hard, and I went off skiing.

Gina Gardiner:                  Now, many of your listeners may be familiar with moguls, but I’d had a bad fall on the Thursday, and I’d said to the people I was skiing with, “I’m going to have a gentle morning. I’ll meet you for lunch.” And they said, “Well, we found a new run,” when we met at lunchtime, “Come with us.”

Gina Gardiner:                  We were in Italy, in  and they took the wrong turning at the top of the chairlift, and we suddenly found ourselves on the Schindlergrat, which is the most difficult black run. And it was full of six foot moguls, very steep, very long. Now, I’d done black runs before, but I skied about a third of the way down and met the people I was skiing with. We were all sitting on a mogul. They were having a smoke, I don’t smoke, and the mogul gave way. I fell about 200 feet, knocked myself out, and life’s never quite been the same since. I did get back to school, and then a few weeks later, I was skiing with the school district ski party and I became paralyzed down one side.

Gina Gardiner:                  It took me three or four months to get back to school, and that summer, my principal suddenly died and I found myself as acting … we call it head teacher in the UK, but I found myself as acting principal, and I was appointed in the January as the principal of the school. I was only 29, and one of the things that I made a decision very early on is that I wanted the children and the staff at school to have the very best possible experience, both educationally, but also I’d been very unhappy at school. One of the things that I was determined is that I wanted a school where people were valued and where aggression was not tolerated, and that the children could learn in a very warm and nurturing environment, but also the teachers.

Gina Gardiner:                  Now, I had two lots of spinal surgery, both of which resulted in failed back surgery syndrome, one in ’96 and one in ’98, and both times I was in a wheelchair. I was wheelchair bound from 1998 until 2004. I had an internal spinal stimulator. Progress has been incredibly slow, but my mobility now is the best it’s been since 1996. I don’t use the wheelchair in the house or the garden, but I do still need to use the wheelchair if I go outside.

Gina Gardiner:                  Now the gift of that was I couldn’t physically get into my classrooms, and so I had to find a way of empowering people without maybe being behind them, to get them to take responsibility for their performance and shared responsibility for the performance of the other teachers and for the children learning. It was very successful. The school was on the best 100 schools list in England twice during my tenure. And the principles of that, developing leadership, are what I use now when I work with whole organizations and teams. And the principles of helping individuals step into their power, to lead their own lives is what I use with all of my individual clients and couples.

Gina Gardiner:                  And they’re strategies that are simple to use, that are easy to incorporate into daily life, and they work. I know they work because they’ve worked for me, and I’ve now used them with hundreds of people and they’ve worked for them.

Gina Gardiner:                  Now, when I left Headship in 2004, partly because of my health, I then started to work for myself as a coach and as a trainer and a facilitator. And what I found was that I had this burning need, this burning feel that my purpose was to help more people. And over the years, that’s been sort of rumbling away, and finally I listened to it two years ago, and that’s how Genuinely You was born.

Gina Gardiner:                  I just believe it is absolutely my purpose to share this technology, if you like, with people. I don’t think we’ve lived at a time when people have been more unhappy. In the UK, 50% plus of the prescriptions which are written, the medical prescriptions are for antidepressants.

Debbie DiPietro:               Let’s make sure I have … I’m getting a warning from our producer here, we have a few minutes left. Let’s be sure people know how to find you. So for our listeners, what is your website again?

Gina Gardiner:                  It’s, so And there’s also a free App called Genuinely You that people can put onto their phones and then they can access the websites through the App as well. You can find all of the resources through, and all of my books are on Amazon as well. But you can find them on the website as well.

Debbie DiPietro:               Okay, well you’re just a pleasure. It’s been a pleasure talking with you and learning more about what you do, Gina. We have a couple minutes left, so maybe one last piece of advice or something you would like to share with our audience before we need to sign off.

Gina Gardiner:                  I would say to everybody that everything you do or say is a choice. How you do it, when you do it, if you do it at all is a choice. And even not actively choosing is a choice. Every choice has consequences, and very often, just letting things fester, not actively taking the choice to take control of your life and to step into your power is the choice that has the most far reaching consequences for you and for your loved ones.

Gina Gardiner:                  And so I would say to all of the listeners, you know, today’s the beginning of the rest of your life. It’s your choice, if there are things in your life that you don’t like, then it’s your choice either to change them or to change the way you react to them, and that there’s plenty of help out there from you and from me and from other people, but take control.

Debbie DiPietro:               I think that’s a great note to end on. Gina, thank you for joining us here on Courageously Go. You’ve been a wonderful, terrific guest and I wish you all the best. I’d like to stay in touch with you.

Gina Gardiner:                  I’d love to, and thank you very much. And thank you for your listeners for listening. I really appreciate it.

Debbie DiPietro:               All right, thank you. It’s been a pleasure.

Gina Gardiner:                  Thanks.

Debbie DiPietro:               All right, everyone out there, thank you for joining me and Gina here today on Courageously Go. My name is Debbie DiPietro, and if you like this show, please share with others and download our shows. You can visit our website, I have a special challenge for the new year, it is called Courageously Go With the New. And as Gina and I were just talking about, it’s important for our brains to try new things and get out of our routines and out of our comfort zones.

Debbie DiPietro:               So, you can learn more about that program on my website. And so, until next time, ladies, remember this: It’s our time to shine, let’s make it so, and Courageously Go!


A Morning Reflection



I just bought a new sketch book to write in for the new year. I started writing in it last night and continued this morning. I thought I would share with you what came out…

What I believe is who I am. So what do I believe? I believe in kindness and the importance of challenging ourselves and experiencing new things.

I believe that fear is a powerful motivator and mentor as it points out what we need to learn, become, and work on right now. The way to make fear work for us is to choose courage as our compass. As courage becomes our North star, anything becomes possible.

So if you are feeling butterflies in your stomach, your heart is thumping, and sweat is beading up on your brow… Those are all good things. For they mean that you are alive!

I believe we are here to grow. A good journal writing exercise for the new year… Make a list of what you are afraid of. Then decide that 2019 is the year that you create a wonderful chapter in your life with fear and courage helping you.

I also find it helpful to take an assessment of my values. I do this periodically. Maybe once or twice a year. For example, I just listed down my values last night and again this morning. There are many but these really seem to jump out for me right now:

Animals, love, intelligence, adventure, beauty, prosperity, growth, fun, outdoors, health, family, God, joy, exercise, education, courage, achievement, and success.

What are your values? What are your beliefs ? Write in your journal. Feel free to share in the comments here.

I also invite you to join me on a new challenge for the New Year. Enroll today! Use code “COURAGE” for a special discount (good until January 31st at midnight).

Have a very blessed Sunday.

~ Debbie


What the World Needs Now: Empathy. A Powerful Conversation with Comedienne Judy Carter

I first saw Judy Carter about five years ago at an all day Women’s health event here in Jacksonville. She was the keynote speaker and had me laughing more than I recall laughing in years! Later in the day she was there selling her book, The Message of You. I bought a copy and enjoyed meeting her. She was so authentic and although that was a few years ago now, I have never forgotten Judy. Fortunately she connected with me on LinkedIn and agreed to be my guest here on Courageously Go! 

When I booked Judy to be a guest on my show, I assumed (and one should never assume anything I suppose. Ha)… that our talk would mostly be about her comedy and the courage it takes to get on a stage and do stand up comedy. 

As it turns out, this conversation I had with Judy took a different direction. I don’t won’t wish to give anymore more away. Listen to our conversation or read the transcribed excerpts of our moving and powerful conversation. I would like to thank Judy for giving her time and sharing her thoughts and wisdom with us.

Debbie DiPietro:               Welcome to Courageously Go!, where we will venture into places we’ve been afraid to go. Women of the world, we are going to start a movement. A movement towards courage.

Debbie DiPietro:               Hello, everyone. My name is Debbie DiPietro and I am your host for this show Courageously Go! This is the place where we have a global conversation about courage. Why do we do this, you ask. Well, I believe that when we live from our hearts by choosing courage, the life of our dreams and a better world for all are possible. No matter our age or circumstances, we never need to feel stuck or alone.

Debbie DiPietro:               These are a few of our essential truths: I choose courage. I use my voice. I embrace the new. I welcome challenge. I continue to grow. I am a woman of action. I courageously go. If any of that resonates with you, then you are definitely in the right place and we are glad to have you on board here.

Debbie DiPietro:               And today I have just a super extra special guest to introduce all of you to. I am definitely a fan and I’ve been a fan of hers for a number of years now. She’s an author, a comedian, a speaker. Her name is Judy Carter. You can find purpose in a stressed out world with Judy Carter’s message of using comedy techniques to decrease stress that makes her such an in-demand speaker for Fortune 500 companies as well as women’s business and leadership groups, and healthcare events where Judy’s keynotes entertain and inspire.

Debbie DiPietro:               Endorsed by Oprah Winfrey and featured on over 100 TV shows, Atlantic City’s Entertainer of the Year nominee, and featured in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and on CNN. As a speaking coach, she teaches people how to improve their presentational skills by finding their authentic message and making it funny. Her private clients include TV stars, pro wrestlers, celebrities, non-celebrities, and a United States Senator.

Debbie DiPietro:               Judy’s bestseller, The Message of You: Turn Your Life Story into a Moneymaking Speaking Career, teaches readers how to use life stories to inspire others. The power in humor of your story. The Comedy Bible and Standup Comedy The Book still rank in the top 100 for comedy books on Amazon. Oprah Winfrey recommended The Comedy Bible to anyone who wants to lighten up. She also has a nice journal companion for The Message of You.

Debbie DiPietro:               So Judy Carter, welcome to Courageously Go!

Judy Carter:                        Wow, after that long intro I think our time’s up.

Debbie DiPietro:               Well, I’m just glad we connected. We had a funny morning, but we’re here and I’m just honored to have you here. I was mentioning before we got started here, I saw you in person here in my hometown here in Jacksonville, Florida about five years ago, Judy. You were the keynote speaker of an awesome … an all-day health event that was co-sponsored by Baptist Health and our WJCT, our PBS TV station and it was just a wonderful day. And you were the keynote. And I have to say, and I still remember to this day I don’t think I’d ever laughed so much in years. You were so wonderful. I just loved it.

Judy Carter:                        That’s amazing in these troubled times how laughter has taken a back seat to a lot of concerns and
that certainly creates a lot of stress..


Debbie DiPietro:               And I think we all could use more humor and laughter in our lives. And as you can pick up, the theme of this show is courage, and honestly I think what you do and what comedians out there do … particularly ones that get themselves up there on a stage, I think that really takes a lot of courage. I can’t even imagine. I mean, it would be a lot for me just to get up and give a talk, let alone do comedy and be funny.

Judy Carter:                        Well, I disagree a bit, because I feel that courage are the people who are every day standing at cash registers and every day waiting tables till 2 a.m. working for very low wages. I think those people have a lot of courage. Single mothers have a lot of courage. I do teach that whatever people are doing in their life that there is underneath all of it, even though if it seems very mundane, that there is a message that they were born to tell. So what I do is I help people find that story, that message, so they can on one level realize life has meaning, their life has purpose. And on the other hand, use it to inspire others.

Debbie DiPietro:               Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. No, I agree with you. And in your book you give a lot of great ideas on how to piece together messages from our stories. And indirectly I mean, you inspired me five years ago.

Judy Carter:                        Well, look at you now. You’re doing a podcast.

Debbie DiPietro:               I know.

Judy Carter:                        This is a real component of courage.

Debbie DiPietro:               Thank you.

Judy Carter:                        The taking the action part.

Debbie DiPietro:               Yes.

Judy Carter:                        It’s the action part.

Debbie DiPietro:               Yeah, exactly. And I’m actually a pretty introverted person. And I got a book published shortly after I saw your presentation. You know, I’m not out there doing a lot of big public speaking yet, but that’s definitely I think is in my near future, Judy. I really aspire to do some of that. And I know that you’re doing … because I’m on your email list, so I know you’re helping people create their TED speeches. How is that all going? That’s pretty exciting.

Judy Carter:                        Well, there’s always a TEDx near people and that has a theme. And so I help people look at their lives and what they’ve been through, and see what they have to teach others. Because our purpose … I’m also doing a podcast, The Power of Purpose, to give exercises to help people realize what their purpose is in life and spread it around.

Judy Carter:                        And what I find is that the courage part and the purpose part really does come from not the successes in our lives but from those times in childhood that were painful, and connecting to those times gives us what our purpose is.

Debbie DiPietro:               Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah, I remember well you shared some personal stories from your past when you interacted with that group that day. And maybe if you wouldn’t mind sharing with our audience today a little bit about that, because in many ways it seems like that got you into this career choice of yours and just coming from a painful place and it was quite a story you have.

Judy Carter:                        Well, here’s something odd about my story, is that I was that kid who had a very severe speech impediment. And it was assumed I was … we didn’t call it then “on the spectrum,” we just called it … kids would shout out, “You retard!” Back then, before people were more sensitive. But what’s so interesting to me, what I’ve realized since I’ve shared this story of growing up with a disabled sister who was unable to speak, so we developed our own language together, and then being made fun of for that and not understanding why and all of that.

Judy Carter:                        But I found after sharing that story that a lot of speakers had had difficulties speaking as a child. So I started to really go into that and interview a lot of people. And what I found is that essential mess in one’s childhood actually forms their purpose and their passion. So a lot of people who have, let’s say, they grew up extremely poor and with maybe parents who are not financially responsible … that is the story for a lot of people who have become professional accountants. So a lot of people who grew up in chaos or maybe families who are hoarders, they become very good at professional jobs that include organization, keeping track of data entry, tech support, things like that. People who keep order.

Judy Carter:                        So it’s our basic way that we make a living in life actually comes from a mess. So your success in life is not really the acronyms after your name, but is really what I call your journey from mess to success. And we rarely stop to look at where we’ve come from, because we’re always trying … you know, everybody feels like, where I am is not OK. I’m not good enough, I’m not successful enough. But if you truly understand and examine your life, you’re going to find that where you are right now was a journey to get to. And once you can see that and get in touch with that time when you felt powerless, that means that when you get in touch with your own sense of that childhood powerlessness and how you felt, that creates what this world needs so desperately, which is empathy.

Judy Carter:                        Now, once you connect to your own self and empathy for yourself and an understanding for yourself. An understanding of where your fears come from and why you’re stuck, you can not only breakthrough your own stuckness but then you have compassion to other and spread the message to others because I believe our purpose in life is not just what we think or what we do or what we decide about ourselves but … and I think this is where your theme of courage comes, is taking action. That action step to affect another person’s life and sometimes that extremely fearful, scary … you can have panicky feelings putting yourself out there like that.

Judy Carter:                        So, that’s what I work out with my clients is when we’re working on a TED talk or anything, I’m going like tell me anything about what happened to you. It’s so interesting to see how those stories form everything about our current life.

Debbie DiPietro:               That would be an interesting process. Typically, how long do you work with someone?

Judy Carter:                        Well the process of … it depends … the process of putting together a TED talk is usually a 8 week process of mining your life for those stories and the message. Because what TED is interested in is not just your story but what is the message behind that story that will make everyone else’s life better?

Judy Carter:                        Now, you can imagine once you find that message all of sudden life has new purpose, life has meaning. Sometimes the most smallest events in your life can be laden with a lot of meaning. Once you’re in this process, for instance, you’re at the dry cleaners and your clothes aren’t ready and they told you it would ready and you get mad and you get angry. You’re getting angry at these people who are just working for nothing and you’re just yelling at them. Once you engage and take responsibility for your entire life, you will realize how perhaps that situation reflects back to a time where everybody lied to you, lied about some big things.

Judy Carter:                        So anytime anybody lies about anything that’s a trigger for you. So, rather than going through life angry, getting angry at people for not being who they’re supposed to be, once we discover our own story we can then heal and have understanding about ourselves and then share that information with others.

Debbie DiPietro:               Um hmm (affirmative). This would be a good exercise really for any of us even if for those of us who don’t have any ambitions to do ted talk or make a career out of speaking but … I mean this is really a good exercise, reflective exercise, right?

Judy Carter:                        Yes absolutely. I’m going to give your listeners something for free.

Debbie DiPietro:               Okay.

Judy Carter:                        That will change their life in 21 days, and it’s called The Message of You Journal. So, the first step to have courage and to find your purpose in life, what you’re going to do with that after that … usually it just spontaneously happens after that is a journal. This journal is designed to find extraordinary stories in an ordinary day. You’re going to start to find the message in those stories that happen to you every day is really the message of you.

Judy Carter:                        So this is called The Message of You Journal, and if your listeners email me and that’s just F-R-E-E @ my name Judy carter J-U-D-Y C-A-R-T-E-R dot com. You just email that to me, say can you send me that journal you talked about. You’ll get it automatically, and I’ll be happy to send it because it’s something I wrote to actually help myself discover what my life was all about and so now people are doing this program, and I’m getting so many emails about how amazing it is for them.

Debbie DiPietro:               Well thank you. I hope everyone heard that. Why don’t we say that email one more time. That’s a generous offer.

Judy Carter:              

Debbie DiPietro:               Okay. I’m a big fan of writing for a long time on my first blog The Journal, a lot of … that website was about getting a good nights sleep and a lot of anxiety and social anxiety issues and stress that I dealt with for most of my adult years but a lot of those blog post, Judy, were journal writing prompts. It’s amazing I really fund my healing through writing, through writing that blog and now I’ve kind of moved on to this newer platform of Courageously Go! but there’s a lot of healing in just writing. Then, what you’re guiding us to do in finding the insights in the stories that come from our lives, I just think that sounds really great and really powerful, very empowering for people.

Judy Carter:                        Yes. I think it’s a time in the world where we all have to stop reacting, there’s so much anger and hate in the world. It just happened to me and I just wrote a story about this last week, when we had a terrible, terrible and it continues, the violence in the world. This man … it was in my driveway, and he was looking very shabby and very dusty and he came up to me and he goes, hi and I just turned my back and said, “I’m busy.” I turned my back, and then he was like, “Oh I’m sorry to bother you, I’m just, I’m your neighbor and I’m working on my house and I just want to make sure it wasn’t too noisy for you.”

Judy Carter:                        That was a wake up call to me because I’ve always complained how cold my neighborhood is and heres a guy who’s coming over to introduce himself, really sweet. Yet, I realized how with all the violence in the world, any man who’s a little shabby comes up to me, I turn my back on him. The same thing happened at the bank, where a guy says, “Hello, how’s your day?” I went, “Yep, fine.” He said, you know the response might be, how was yours.

Judy Carter:                        Again, this is a super nice guy and I realized that people are constantly coming up to me being kind, being nice and because of all the fear in the world, it’s affected me. I’ve lost my … I have a fear of strangers, and I don’t let people in. I put this wall up of protection based on what they look like. I realized that has to change because we all have to hold on … and this is what real courage is, is not giving in to what people are saying about how the world is.

Judy Carter:                        The world is how we make it. If we want to go around extremely fearful of each other, that’s not a way that we can sustain. Anger and hate does not sustain anything, love and caring does.

Judy Carter:                        So let’s just say for right now and the world the way it is, mass shootings, ugliness, the anger that is not real courage but perhaps real courage is not turning your back on someone who is coming over to say hi, not assuming they’re going to attack you and take everything away from you. But real courage right now is to maybe spend one day with an open heart to everyone who passes your path.

Judy Carter:                        So those little steps of courage. I talked in the beginning about standing on stage and speaking, that’s perhaps a bit too much for people. This is how courage works, it works with the minutia of your day; every single day you have an opportunity to turn your back on fear and embrace another person, I don’t mean touching them but embrace them in terms of not turning your back on them.

Debbie DiPietro:               Yeah. Yeah. That’s a good insight. I think … I agree, the word courage, it comes from the heart and I think that that’s something we can work on, that’s my essential theme in this whole show of course is leaving courageously even if it is taking those little steps and as you say it might just mean being kinder to a stranger. Saying hello to someone on your street or maybe taking a moment … someone, you know you had mentioned earlier in this conversation, our real courageous people are the people making minimum wage at a fast food cash register.

Debbie DiPietro:               Taking a moment and rather than maybe being impatient standing in the line, actually asking how their day is going or just showing some kindness. I think kindness-

Judy Carter:                        Empathy.

Debbie DiPietro:               Empathy, right? Exactly.

Judy Carter:                        Okay so, here’s the greatest give you could give someone. Okay.

Debbie DiPietro:               Okay.

Judy Carter:                        The best give you anybody including your husband or the cashier at In and Out Burger is to see them and to say these words, it must be hard blah blah blah blah. It must be hard standing on your feet all day, how are you doing. So you’re not just asking them how they are, ’cause they’re just going to go fine, how are you? You’re not going to get anything from that but what you will get when you actually see someone is you’ll wake them up and you’re giving them the best gift.

Judy Carter:                        So when you go down into like somebody who’s working in a parking garage, is it hard not being in the sun all day? Someone who scoops ice cream, is it hard … you’re not getting carpal tunnel in one hand? Is it hard just always using the same hand or do you switch? You’re seeing them.

Debbie DiPietro:               Yeah. Yeah. People need to be acknowledged.

Judy Carter:                        [crosstalk 00:23:20] waitress, is it hard dealing with difficult … you always ask a question because you don’t want to assume you know about their life but ask is it hard, that’s what empathy is.

Judy Carter:                        So I think that step of courage to do that is something that can be very transformational, to see other people because right now we have this movement to see immigrants as others not human, different. To see somebody and to truly see them and to truly ask, ” Hey, is it hard?” And see something about them rather than seeing everybody else as the other.

Judy Carter:                        Watch how things change in your life because that’s when you step over the line from hatred, fear and hostility to caring, love and kindness and that’s truly how we can make a difference in life.

Judy Carter:                        If you go back and maybe see how you were treated harshly as a child, this will ultimately … and if you’re not seen in life become the person where you treat others the way you want to be treated. We all want to be seen. We all want to be acknowledged. Start acknowledging others.

Debbie DiPietro:               I like that. That’s a great message Judy. Thank you.

Debbie DiPietro:               For everybody of all ages I know that’s something we want to teach our kids but it’s a good reminder for each of us because as you say there’s so much going on in the world you’re right. It is easy to kind of put that shield up and say, no. I think a lot of it is just having the news on a lot or looking at our news apps a lot.

Debbie DiPietro:               Sometimes I have to because I’m a writer and I manage social media and I’m on my computer, my technology like so many of us all the time and it’s easy to just … it’s a lot of negative energy if you’re just tuned into that too much. I mean I like to keep up and know what’s going on. Sometimes I have to give myself a little media diet at least at bedtime, put the phones away and do what I can to be centered.

Judy Carter:                        Yeah. I mean I was horrified to see how it affected me, how it has changed me because that’s not who I am and it’s conscientious.

Debbie DiPietro:               I agree.

Judy Carter:                        People are stopping going out. They don’t want to go to malls. People … I mean that’s what courage is now.

Debbie DiPietro:               We are going to have to end there but this is such a short show. We will have to maybe have you back in 2019. I appreciate your honest sharing. I knew you were going to be a great guest. I really wanted to get a little more into comedy and humor but perhaps we’ll just table that for future conversation.

Judy Carter:                        In a future time when … I’d be happy to Debbie. It’s been great. Congratulations on what you have done, that’s awesome in getting this message out. Take care.

Debbie DiPietro:               Thank you so much. It means a lot to me. Thank you Judy.

Judy Carter:                        Bye.

Debbie DiPietro:               Bye.

Debbie DiPietro:               All right everyone. Our time is up. Thank you for joining us today on Courageously Go!

Debbie DiPietro:               Ladies until next time, remember this, it’s our time to shine, let’s make it so and courageously go.

If you would like to try something new for 2019, I invite you to participate in my brand new challenge, Courageously Go! into the New! You can learn all the details here! Courageously Go! Into the New Challenge.


Go with the New for the New Year: Take the Challenge!




On our most recent podcast, we did something a little different. My producer, Joe Dobzynski, interviewed me. I am excited about the coming new year and I invite you to join me on a special challenge I have designed with you in mind… It is called Courageously Go! into the New. Listen to our conversation here to learn more or you may read our transcribed conversation.

Let’s #Go!

I am Debbie DiPietro, the host of Courageously Go, and I’m so excited, and glad that you are here. Our mission is this: To facilitate a global conversation about courage. I believe that when we live from our hearts by choosing courage, the life of our dreams, and a better world for all are possible, no matter our age, or circumstances, we never need to feel stuck, or alone.

Debbie DiPietro:             I believe in these essential truths: I choose courage, I use my voice, I embrace the new, I welcome challenge, I continue to grow, I am a woman of action. I courageously go. If any of these statements resonate with you, you are most definitely in the right place, so welcome, and we’re going to do something a little bit different today.

Debbie DiPietro:             I am actually going to turn the reins over to Joe Dobzynski, and he is the host of ThirtyFour-50, and also producer, and wizard, and magician, and helper for my show Courageously Go. Joe, welcome to Courageously Go.

Joe Dobzynski:                  Oh Debbie, thank you very much. It’s always an honor to be on your show, and listen to your show, and produce your show, because you bring such an exciting future look on everybody out there.

Debbie DiPietro:             Oh well, well thank you for that, and I thank you for just making this so easy for me when you, and Dr. Carson approached me about exactly a year ago. So, this is really, we’re kind of celebrating our first anniversary, here at Courageously Go.

Debbie DiPietro:             You know, I’d never done anything like this before, but you, and your team there at Amanatee Group, , you made this easy for me, and I’m having the time of my life. This is so much fun, and I don’t think it would be as much fun if I didn’t have someone like yourself to just do the technical things, and let me just do the Debbie DiPietro thing, you know, and it just works.

Joe Dobzynski:                  Well, we know we have a successful show, because you keep drawing people in, and on top of that you bring great insight, you know, the guests into your show, and that creates a whole other agenda of what goes on, and I just am so happy to be able to host on the show.

Debbie DiPietro:             Awesome. Awesome. So, what are we up to today? Why did we bring you on?

Joe Dobzynski:                  Well, I’ll tell you one of the things that I’m looking at is, I follow your show as a producer. So, basically we do that, and we have that little conversation before, and after, and I get to meet these fantastic guests you bring in, but what are you excited about today?

Debbie DiPietro:             Oh goodness. I’m excited about so many things. You know, first of all, this podcast is just so much fun, and it really has been an exercise in courage on my part. I never really thought I could do something like this Joe, actually speak to the world, in a sense when you are working in this medium in radio, and broadcasting, and podcasting, you could be, theoretically the whole world could be listening, right?

Debbie DiPietro:             So, that’s pretty amazing that I am doing that, and I’m for the most part, I’m not nervous, I’m just being myself, and talking with wonderful people. Like, I’m just having fun, and so I’m super excited about where this show is going to take us, and just getting the word out to women, that we can use our voice, that we can step it up, and be courageous, and not worry so much about what other people think of us, and just enjoy our lives.

Debbie DiPietro:             So, I’m really excited about getting that message out. So, that’s just a couple of things, my book, Short Morning Prayers, that was published by Blue Mountain Arts about a year, and a half ago, continues to do well.

Debbie DiPietro:             I just recently found out, that it is now in Cracker Barrel stores, and so that’s pretty big. There are a lot of Cracker Barrel stores along the interstates, in cities in our country, and that’s another, you know, work from the heart, beautiful collection of prayers, and it’s a nice, with the holiday season coming up, that will be a nice gift for any people in your life, and a nice way to start the day communicating with your higher power.

Debbie DiPietro:             So, that’s just a few things, and I have actually something new, new going on. You want to hear about that?

Joe Dobzynski:                  Of course.

Debbie DiPietro:             Okay. Well this is, this is like, brand new. This is probably the first time I said it out loud with anyone, other than my husband, and my two cats, Winston, and Sammy. So, John, and Sammy, and Winston know about this, and now Joe, you, and the the world are going to learn about this, but essentially, I have put together a program, and it is called Courageously Go Into the New.

Debbie DiPietro:             It’s going to be a 21 day program online, where we are going to encourage one another to try new things. Even if it’s little things, like taking a different route to work in the morning, or reading, you know, reading a history book, instead of your usual mystery novel, or going to a different restaurant on date night. Just little things, but every day, we’re going to challenge each other to try something new.

Joe Dobzynski:                  So, will it be the opportunity for people who are part of your challenge, to be able to communicate with you, and other people in the challenge, so they could cross information back, and forth?

Debbie DiPietro:             Most definitely. That’s a great question, and there will be opportunities a few ways. I’m using an online course platform, where there’ll be an ability, it’ll be kind of like a forum, where after each lesson, and challenge, people, including myself, we can comment, and have a discussion underneath that lesson, but I’m also, anyone who is enrolled in this challenge, we’re going to have a secret Facebook group, where we can interact, and build community among each other, and get on some live Facebook video calls, and also on a weekly visit.

Debbie DiPietro:             And I’m going to call it, I’m thinking Wine Wednesday chat. I love wine, but you don’t have to drink wine, but I’m thinking every Wednesday evening at midweek, we’re going to get on, I’ll send out a link, and we will have a live call on Zoom probably, I like Zoom.

Debbie DiPietro:             Also, anyone who’s enrolled in this challenge will have an opportunity to if they want, one on one time with me, just for extra support. I think of myself as a confidence coach, and a joy facilitator. I’m an educator, and a teacher at heart, so I’d be happy to be that person for them if they so feel moved to reach out to me in that capacity.

Joe Dobzynski:                  So, tell your listeners how they can get attached to you, or do they drop you an email? Do you have a signup sheet on your website? I mean how do they get in touch?

Debbie :             Yes. Thank you. Yes, I have a tab on my website, which is simply, and it says on the top, ‘The Challenge’, and there’ll be a form, they can sign up, and they can easily enroll in this course.

Debbie:             They can always email me too, which is That is Debbie, D-E-B-B-I-E,, and while I’m thinking of it, I have a special promotional code just for our listeners here, just as a special thank you for listening, and supporting this new show this past year, as when they’re enrolling from my website, Joe, if they use the code, the word ‘Courage’, they get a significant discount.

Joe Dobzynski:                  And this starts when Deb?

Debbie DiPietro:             It is starting right now, and so we’re just going to jump into it during the holidays, and in something for the new year, and I’m really excited about it.

Joe Dobzynski:                  Tell us, you know, you seem to change, and you’ve been changing the world in your own special way. You know, as the author of Short Morning Prayers, award winning blogger, public speaker, host of this program, I guess, what inspires you to continue to grow?

Debbie DiPietro:             Yeah, I get asked that. I have a lot on my plate right now, Joe, and I can’t, you know, I have a lot of energy right now. It’s just a great time in life, and I guess after so many years of maybe holding myself back a bit, I really feel like now’s my time to just give to the world, and be a success that I know I could be, and to live big, and step it up.

Debbie DiPietro:             But as far as what really inspires me, probably a few things. It sounds kinda silly, but my two kittens who just turned one, I love just watching them play, and you know, animals are so wonderful, because they’re always kind of just at peace. They go about their lives, they eat, they play, they nap, they don’t worry about the news on the television that night, or worry about whatever’s going on in the world, they just enjoy their lives.

Debbie DiPietro:             So, I get a lot of inspiration just from my cats, in how simple life can be, and so sweet when you’re just, you know, at peace with yourself, and with life. So, that is certainly a source of inspiration, and as far as this whole Courageously Go program, and this new challenge that I’m super excited about for the new year, Courageously Go Into the New.

Debbie DiePietro:             One book, and I mentioned this on my website, and my blog, and I will mention it on my first lesson in this new challenge when people sign up, but a book I do highly recommend, it’s called Courage: The Joy of Living Dangerously by Osho.

Debbie DiPietro:             He’s certainly not conventional by any stretch of the imagination Joe, he can be pretty radical, and I don’t agree with 100 percent of what he says, but he certainly has got me thinking, and I somehow came across this book, when I turned 50, right around my 50th birthday, and he really gets us thinking about this whole courage thing, and he challenges us Joe.

Debbie DiPietro:             Perhaps I have this desire to challenge, you know, other people now. He challenges us, because as human beings, by, and large, we’re creatures of comfort, right? We’re creatures of routine. We love security, even if maybe we’re not completely thrilled with the relationship we’re in, or the house we live in, or the jobs were working at, at least it’s familiar territory.

Debbie DiPietro:             It’s something we know, and change is also scary for so many of us, it’s so scary. So, we often go about our lives, and not really going for the things we want, because we want to stay in our little secure bubbles. Well, Osho, he has a different point of view. He says, ‘Don’t look at it as uncertainty, what if you took uncertainty, and instead thought of it as wonder, and don’t look at insecurity as insecurity, and something to be afraid of, and something to avoid.

Debbie :             Instead of insecurity, instead look at that as freedom, and that really, people who are the most alive are going for risks, and going for things that are uncertain, and really living a life of adventure’, and I guess like deep down, and this probably goes back to your first question, what am I excited about?

Debbie :             I’m probably most excited about living my life as an adventure, in actually being excited about every day, and excited about the years I have left, and hopefully that’s a lot of years I still have left in me, and just enjoying life as an adventure, and really that’s what I want for the listeners of our show, and that’s what I want for the visitors of my website, and the readers of my books, and the people who are going to sign up, and take this challenge with me.

Debbie :             That’s really what I want to facilitate is, let’s live life as an adventure, let’s drink the wine.

Joe Dobzynski:                  Well, with all the challenges you have, and helping other people with challenges, what scares you the most out of your challenges?

Debbie DiPietro:             Yeah, that’s a great question, and I’ll just be honest. It’s really hard for me to promote myself, and probably, we’ve been doing this now for a year together, Joe, and you know, I’ve had, I mean I’ve had Shannon Miller on, I’ve had all these great guests on, really not feeling too nervous, but I’ll be honest with you, probably this one right now is the hardest for me.

Debbie DiPietro:             I guess I’m not nervous, but it’s certainly challenging for me to talk about myself, and to promote myself, and so this is probably a good stretch for me right now, and this is actually taking every ounce of courage that I have within me right now to even do this type of, instead of doing the usual interviewing another guest, and promoting, you know, what they’re up to in their projects, and work, but to actually have this conversation about what I’m excited about, and my project. So, that’s very hard for me.

Joe Dobzynski:                  So, the 21 day challenge, if somebody was to join in, do they have to wait until it begins or can they jump in any time?

Debbie :             Whenever you sign up, you can start, and it’s self paced, but I will always be there, and it’s going to be organic.

Debbie :             You know, I’ll be tweaking things, and changing things, and getting on these live calls every week, no matter when you sign up. So, we’ll always be kind of, you’re never going to be there alone doing this, but for the most part, you know, we’ll be building this community, and especially those people who really sign up early, ’cause it’s kind of like a pilot, right? I’ve never done this kind of thing before.

Debbie :             And it’s exciting, because people that sign up early, will really have a chance to co-create, and collaborate this along with me. Now, I have developed it out, I certainly have an outline, and I certainly have a very clear vision, and a direction of where I want this thing to go, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for the participants to create this along with me, you know?

Debbie DiPietro:             This is not a static thing, right? So, I’m pretty excited about where this will take us, and how we can help each other, and celebrate together, and yeah, I think, and even, go ahead.

Joe Dobzynski:                  Well, the idea, is that you’re encouraging each other to get out of your comfort zone as you said, but I have a quick question.

Debbie DiPietro:             Yes.

Joe Dobzynski:                  In the description that we’ve talked about today, talk about the courage muscles, and what do you mean by flexing those.

Debbie DiPietro:             Yeah. Yeah, that’s just something I came up with, courage muscles, and I really feel like the more we do get out of our comfort zones, Joe, the more we just sort of, do things that we didn’t think we could do.

Debbie DiPietro:             It does a few things, okay? It tells yourself that, ‘I can do this, I could do this’, and with that knowledge, you start sitting up a little straighter in your chair, right? You start standing up a little taller, and walking with a little more strut in your step, because it’s like, ‘Yes, I can do this’, and you’re more confident, and it can even just be little things.

Debbie DiPietro:             It’s like going to the gym, and maybe you haven’t worked out your whole life, or maybe you’ve laid off for a few weeks, and so you start off on a certain set with just 10 pounds, and you build up to 15 pounds, and you get stronger.

Debbie DiPietro:             And I really believe that’s true with courage, and I believe in this, and specifically what this challenge is about. I want to keep it simple, and I want to keep it fun. So, we’re going to challenge each other to just do new things, and doing new things, although we’re not describing it this way, but it’s really facing our fears, isn’t it?

Debbie :             It’s really pushing through, you know, perhaps some things that we didn’t think we could do, in our whole lives, like, I never thought I could do something like this podcast, and you know, since I turned 50, and I chose, and I talked about this previously, but I really made courage my compass, and I decided to dedicate my life to courage.

Debbie :             And in doing that in the last couple of years, I have tried new things, including this podcast, getting, you know, pitching my book, and getting it published, going off on a trip with my husband to Europe, we’d never done that before, and it would have been easy to talk ourselves out of it with all the quote dangers, and things going on in the world.

Debbie :             But we did it, and it was awesome. So, life’s an adventure, and that’s when the courage muscle really comes in, when you feel alive, and you do so by trying new things, and getting that confident level up.

Joe Dobzynski:                  Well, everything that you’ve done, that I’ve known that you’ve done, you’ve always created a better world for people, but let me ask you this, what’s your goal here with the challenge?

Debbie DiPietro:             My goal here, is to build that community, and to encourage not just other people, and other women to do new things, but myself, and I want to step it up. At heart, I’m a teacher. I have my degree in education.

Debbie DiPietro:             I don’t know if you remember Joe when, a year ago, before we started this show, I was a guest on Dr. Gayle Carson’s show, Living Regret Free, and a big part of that wonderful conversation that I had with Dr. Carson, was back then I was facilitating, and hosting play shops for women in my Jacksonville community, and I had so much fun with that, and that was one of the new things that I started doing, challenging myself with, and although I have taken a break from doing that, I just don’t have the time right now.

Debbie :             I’m really doing this show right now, but I love facilitating, I love bringing people together, whether it’s here on this radio show, or in my writings, or the play shops I was doing, and now this challenge, and future online courses.

Debbie DiPietro:             I like to facilitate, and really bringing people together, and having a positive experience, and I remember for seven years, I was actually an elementary classroom teacher, and seeing those little guys, I taught fifth grade for three years, and second grade for four, okay?

Debbie DiPietro:             You know there were some days, let’s face it, that you just go home, and you just, ‘Why am I doing this?’ But then there are days where they just get it, right? And sometimes, it might’ve been a planned out lesson, but oftentimes it was just some spontaneous learning moment in the classroom, and those little eyes light up, and you can sense the energy, and they’re excited about something, and I got goosebumps thinking about it, but that’s what I want for the women that I’m going to be working with on this challenge.

Debbie DiPietro:             I want to facilitate that, I want to facilitate joy. I’m not a big fan of the term, ‘Life Coach’, but I do think of myself as a facilitator of joy, so there you go.

Joe Dobzynski:                  So, will you also have panels on your show, or available so that people can ask like, a group of people who have the same type of issues, or having the same kind of challenges? Are you going to have a panel, so you can like work with them right there, and then, and see where they are?

Debbie :             That’s a great idea, and that might be the weekly, you know, when I mentioned the midweek kind of the wine, the wine chat, wine Wednesday, you know, when we get on a live Zoom call, Zoom is a nice tool, because you can get people, you know, visual people, and Skype as well.

Debbie DiPietro:             But I like Zoom, and we could actually have a panel of people on your computer screen, and I think that would be great. So, that’s a good idea.

Joe Dobzynski:                  That’s great. So before I let you go, I know you have something special to offer your listeners out there.

Debbie DiPietro:             Yes, and I mentioned it before, and thank you for reminding, me because I think it’s important that when you go on my website, and you go, when you sign up for Courageously Go Into the New challenge for the new year, you’ll have a chance to use a coupon code, and it’s just simply the word ‘Courage’, and it will automatically give you $50 off.

Joe Dobzynski:                  And your website? Your website.

Debbie DiPietro:             The website, yes. The website is, and I should mention that, that code is only good, it will expire on midnight, January 31.

Debbie DiPietro:             So, that code will be good until January 31 at midnight, and then starting February one, it goes back to the regular price. So, now’s the time to jump in, and try something new.

Joe Dobzynski:                  So, you also have the book out there, Short Morning Prayers. Can you tell people where they can get that as well?

Debbie DiPietro:             Yes, yes. It’s certainly available on It’s available on, and it’s funny, it’s available on different outlets. Not all Hallmark stores carry it, but some Hallmark stores do, Cracker Barrel restaurants now do, they have the retail side in their restaurants, and the various eclectic little gift shops out there that carry my book, it’s kind of up to the individual merchants, you know, who carries my book, or not.

Debbie DiPietro:             I’ll have a link for people to purchase the book from my website if they wish to, and come to think of it, I always have a few hard copies available, and I can always get more from my publisher. Perhaps someone wants a personal touch, and if they would like me to hand write a note, a signed note from the author, from me, and I can personally ship it to them, they can order a hard copy from me directly too. I’ll make that possible via my website.

Joe Dobzynski:                  That’s great. Debbie DiPietro has been my guest today on her show mind you, and it’s been a fantastic thing, and discussion, and I’m looking forward to hearing more, and more about the Courageously Go Into the New with you, and I’m going to let you close your show, because you have one of the most powerful endings of any radio show that we have on our networks.

Joe Dobzynski:                  So, I’m going to let you finish it off, and thank you again, Debbie, for letting me have the opportunity to talk to you.

Debbie DiPietro:             Well thank you Joe. It’s been a pleasure. Thank you so much, and thank you everyone out there for tuning in, and joining us today, here on Courageously Go. So ladies, until next time, remember this, it’s our time to shine. Let’s make it so, and Courageously Go.







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Thankful for Many Things





On this eve of Thanksgiving, I am feeling very thankful right now. I always feel like it is a good idea to focus on our blessings. A great practice to get into anytime of the year is to keep a gratitude journal. Some days your list may be long – or perhaps you may just jot down a thing or two. If you were to add some things to your list, what might they be?

For me, I am very thankful for:

  1. A roof over my head.
  2. Cooler Florida weather
  3. A husband who likes to cook.
  4. My health
  5. Creative and purposeful work that keeps me happily busy

As pertaining to this new platform, Courageously Go!, I am thankful for all of you who are visiting this blog, listening to the podcast, have been a guest on my show, or have chosen to join me on our newly launched Courageously Go! Into the New program.

Thank you and have a very happy Thanksgiving!